Polly Toynbee is a prolific journalist. She is certainly not a woman of few words. Yet she has been uncharacteristically reticent for the past three months over why she pulled out of a debate with the Christian apologist, William Lane Craig, the philosopher and New Testament scholar whose Reasonable Faith tour of the UK begins next week.<\/p>\n
Dr Craig has emerged in recent times as the scourge of the New Atheists. Over the years he has debated persuasively, as YouTube shows, with Peter Atkins, Daniel Dennett, Laurence Kraus, Lewis Wolpert and Sam Harris. His exchange with the man who was once the world\u2019s leading atheist, the philosopher, Anthony Flew, was said to have been instrumental in Prof Flew\u2019s late conversion to deism. Sam Harris has described Dr Craig as \u201cthe one Christian apologist who has put the fear of God into many of my fellow atheists\u201d.<\/p>\n
Perhaps that is why Richard Dawkins and AC Grayling refused to meet the American in debate. So it was all credit to Polly Toynbee when, as president of the British Humanist Association, she agreed to open Craig\u2019s tour on Monday with a debate on the existence of God. That was in April.<\/p>\n
But then in August she pulled out with the bald statement: \u201cI hadn\u2019t realised the nature of Mr Lane Craig\u2019s debating style, and having now looked at his previous performances, this is not my kind of forum\u201d. She has said nothing more since, apart from apologising for the inconvenience her withdrawal caused after many tickets had been sold. Perhaps she had seen Dr Craig\u2019s debate with Christopher Hitchens of which an atheist website said: \u201cCraig was flawless and unstoppable. Hitchens was rambling and incoherent, with the occasional rhetorical jab. Frankly, Craig spanked Hitchens like a foolish child.\u201d<\/p>\n
Dr Craig is not the Dawkinsites preferred fundamentalist creationist opponent. He is an analytic philosopher who has attempted to breathe new life into the old cosmological, ontological, teleological and moral arguments for the existence of God. But when the philosopher AC Grayling was invited to debate whether objective moral values can exist as more than social conventions without God, the atheist scornfully riposted: \u201cI would be happy to debate him on the question of\u00a0the existence of fairies and water-nymphs\u201d.<\/p>\n
Prof Dawkins has responded similarly, accusing Dr Craig of\u00a0 being a \u201cdeeply unimpressive…ponderous buffoon\u201d who uses \u201cchopped logic\u201d for \u201cbamboozling his faith-head audience.\u201d\u00a0 He had, he said in a phrase which recalled pots and kettle, \u201cno intention of assisting Craig in his relentless drive for self-promotion\u201d.<\/p>\n
To outsiders all this looks bizarre. So much so that an atheist philosophy lecturer from Oxford, Dr Daniel Came, has written to Richard Dawkins warning him that his refusal to debate with Dr Craig was \u201capt to be interpreted as cowardice\u201d.<\/p>\n
In a way that is true. The classic Dawkins-Grayling-Toynbee style of debate is a relentless catalogue of historical outrage, cheap jibes, sideswipes and dismissive phrases about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Dr Craig, by contrast, focuses relentlessly on his opponents\u2019 failure to address the internal logic of his philosophical theology.<\/p>\n
In the face of this the New Atheists\u2019 ad hominem <\/em>insults get only more shrill. Prof Dawkins has called his opponent \u201ca truly disgusting person\u201d and\u00a0 blogged on his \u201calmost visceral loathing of \u2018Dr\u2019 Craig\u2019s odiously unctuous, smug and self-satisfied tone of voice\u201d.\u00a0 Why the doctorates are apostrophised is unclear since one was a PhD under John Hick at Birminghm and the other a Th.D from Munich. And objecting to his voice is as persuasive as dismissing Dr Grayling on the grounds of his bouffant hairstyle. The British Humanist Association lists as one of its core values \u201cengaging in debate rationally, intelligently and with attention to evidence\u201d. We are waiting.<\/p>\n \n from the Church Times<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Polly Toynbee is a prolific journalist. She is certainly not a woman of few words. Yet she has been uncharacteristically reticent for the past three months over why she pulled out of a debate with the Christian apologist, William Lane Craig, the philosopher and New Testament scholar whose Reasonable Faith tour of the UK begins […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25,41,33],"tags":[361,719,228],"class_list":["post-4514","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism","category-religion","category-science-religion","tag-humanist","tag-religion","tag-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4514","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4514"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4514\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8036,"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4514\/revisions\/8036"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4514"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4514"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulvallely.com\/archive\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4514"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}